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mr. O'Connor what is your real name him Malcolm Malcolm X is that your legal
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name as far as I'm concerned it's my legal name have you been to court to established I don't know I didn't have
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to go to court to be called Murphy or Jones or Smith excuse me in franching you this way that's not a Chinese person
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were to say his name was Patrick Murphy you would look at him like he's insane because Murphy is an Irish name a
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European name or the name that has a Caucasian or white background and a
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yellow purse Chinese is a yellow man and he has nothing to do a no connection whatsoever with the name Murphy and if
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it doesn't look proper for a person who is yellow or Chinese to be walking around named Murphy or Jones or Johnson
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or a bunch or Powell I think it would be just as improper for a black person or
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the so-called Negro in this country as we're taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad to walk around with these names
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and therefore he teaches us that during slavery the same slave master who owned
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us put his last name on us to denote that we were his property so that when
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you see a Negro today who's named Johnson if you go back in his history you'll find that he was once his grandfather or one of his forefathers
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was owned by a white man who was named Johnson his name is bunch his his grandfather was owned by him point there was a name
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bunch would you mind telling me what your father's last name was my father didn't know his last name
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my father got his last name from his grandfather and his grandfather got from his grandfather who got it from the
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slave master the real names of our people were destroyed was there any line any point in in the
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genealogy of your family when you did have to use the last name and if so what
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was the last name of my forefathers it was taken from them when they were brought to America and made slaves and
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then the name of the slave master was given which we refused we rejected that name today you make you mean you won't
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even tell me what your father's supposed last name was or gifted last name on I
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never acknowledge it whatsoever let me ask you about the status of Elijah
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Muhammad first of all is he ill I spoke to him today he is in better health than he has been he's suffering from
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asthmatic bronchitis is that why didn't attend your rally in Alaska the only reason that he didn't attend was
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his ill condition and the weather here especially on that particular day was of
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such nature that it wouldn't have been almost insane for him to come well now
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did you hold that meeting last Tuesday because it coincided with the general
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election the primary election I think if you study the history of mr. Muhammad's work and religious work in this country
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he's been we've had our convention on February the 26th every year for I think the past 33 years well now well while
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you don't care to discussed your former name or the names that the slave master
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gave to your antecedents it is a matter of record that Muhammad's last name was
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Poole Elijah Poole no that's the name that his slave master gave to his
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grandfather or great-grandfather but that's not his name well his mother and father thought when they called him
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Elijah Pooler that was his name they didn't know any better boys they didn't know any better or not that they thought that was his name yes sir but sir what
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I'm trying to find out is when did he ceased to be Elijah Poole and get to be Elijah Mohan in 1931 I think it was in
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Detroit he was taught the true history of our people and made aware at that
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time that he was wearing an English name and by not being an Englishman he looked out of place and his teacher gave him
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the name that he's wearing today Muhammad Elijah Muhammad all right now when did he become what he purports to
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be in your literature the son of Allah I've never heard the Honorable Elijah Muhammad referred to as the son the
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Prophet I've never heard him referred to as the prophet of Allah what do you refer to messenger of allah
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all right The Messenger of Allah and I appreciate the correction yes um he says that a prophet is somebody who predicts
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the future and he's not predicting the future whereas a messenger is someone who carries a message that has been given to him by one who authors that
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message well now who gave him the message and to whom is it supposed to be delivered master WF Muhammad the one who
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taught him is the author of the message he gave it to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad which makes him the messenger
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and he's to deliver that message of truth and righteousness to the 20 million American so-called
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Negroes which means he's to teach us the truth which will awaken us and then show us how to live a life of righteousness
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which will automatically qualify us for recognition as human beings by all other
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righteous human beings here on this area well now one other question with reference to what mr. Hurlbert asked you
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a little bit ago you took a very moderate position of wanting
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independence without having any hatred for the for the whites is that as do I understand that correctly hatred is not
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involved in it whatsoever well I recall in recent plane crash I
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mean two or three years ago or less than that a charter flight on Air France in
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which group of people from Atlanta Georgia were as they say in the business
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as they took off from from our Liefeld and you were quoted at that time as
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expressing great gratification that this tragedy had occurred do you recall that I recalled it the press miss interpreted
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and misrepresented it what did you say said that it was made at a Muslim meeting it wasn't it was made at a rally
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of Negroes Baptists Methodists Catholic and otherwise in Los Angeles who were rallying to protest the brutal shooting
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of seven unarmed Negroes in what did you say heavily armed white policemen in the
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city of Los Angeles and because we are a people who have been taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad to never carry
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weapons of any kind but to get on God's side and rely on God to find our battle sparse at the time that these brothers
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were shot down so brutally I pointed out at the funeral of the brother who died that God would step in and take a hand
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in giving us some form of justice for the brutal killing of our brother and
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when the plane crashed in France I pointed out to the crowd at this rally
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that this was an act of God showing his wrath or complete resentment over the
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brutal form of injustice that had been inflicted upon our poor unarmed brothers
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will you serve that ordeal in at that time dr. Billy Graham was in a crusade in Chicago and the press your
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papers here in this city are quoted Billy Graham of also saying that that plane crash was an act of God and if you
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take time to check the newspapers I think that you'll find that this is correct but no one thought that Billy Graham was so wrong when he attributed
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the crash of this plane to his guy but when we say that it come from our God then we looked upon his being you know
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outraged I know but you took the position that this was a matter of satisfaction to you is done against you
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and I think that that's a trifle severe we did not think that it was a coincidence that 120 of the whites on
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this plane came from the state of Georgia a state that has the worst record in history in the history of
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America for the mistreatment of black people in this country worse than Mississippi well they maybe are a little
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less hipper Mississippi is a little less hypocritical today than Georgia but both
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of them are still practicing the same thing now the the whites in Georgia bite Negroes with a smile whereas they used
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to bite them with a growl but they're still being bitten and we don't think that it that it is any worse to be
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bitten with a smile than it is to be bitten with a growl mr. Calbert the subject of Mississippi
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what is your organization's position of what happened in Mississippi is what
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such as the james Meredith incident from the enrollment of him in the university well the Honorable Elijah Muhammad wants
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justice for every one of the 20 million so-called Negroes and to just take one Negro and stick him in in college with
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uh with the aid of the sticks on 86th uh 15,000 troops and at a cost of $6,000
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there's a disgrace it's a waste of taxpayers money it's a forest it's hypocrisy because if
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it's right for one Negro to be forced into that University then every Negro in the state of Mississippi who is
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qualified has the same right to go to that University and if the government is not ready and willing to enforce the
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right of every Negro in the state of Mississippi then in my opinion sir it's only hypocrisy to pretend that they are
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for justice by pushing one Negro in and blowing it up all over the world to make it look like they're solving the
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problem when millions of black people in that state are still going to segregated schools and getting an inferior
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education your organization encourage members to attempt to enter schools that
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a balloon is all white the Honorable Elijah Muhammad doesn't discourage us from attaining white schools but he does
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say that it is better for us to go to our own schools and after we have a thorough knowledge of ourselves of our
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own kind and racial dignity has been instilled within us then we can go to
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any one school and will still retain our grace pride our racial dignity and we
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will be able to avoid the subservient inferiority complex that most Negroes have or are veterans filled with in most
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Negroes who receive this sort of integrated education you are born in
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Omaha is that right yes sir and you left your family left to Omaha when you were about one year old I imagine about a
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year old why did they leave aa well to my understanding the Ku Klux Klan burned
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down one of their homes in in in Omaha there's a lot of this made your family feel very unhappy I'm sure
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well insecure if not unhappy so you must have a somewhat prejudiced point of view a personally prejudiced point of view in
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order cannot look at this in a broad academic sort of way Lilly I think that's incorrect because despite the
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fact that that happened in Omaha and then when we moved to Lansing Michigan our home was burned down again in fact my father was killed by the Ku Klux Klan
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and despite all of that no one was more thoroughly integrated with White's than I no one has lived more so in the
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Society of whites than I and it was only until I became a Muslim that I ceased
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living in the society is thoroughly integrated with the Viceroy I don't I do have white people in your family
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background definitely most Negroes in this country have whites in their family background ours how are you going to
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differentiate between the white blood that's in you and the Negro Bloods and yeah you don't mind my using no I use it
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interchangeably I know you do do that well I use it if it fits the purpose to use it but I use it against my will but
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you used it voluntarily and describing instant in Los Angeles so I use it against my will I guess the teachings
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were thoroughly inculcated no but when I say to you that the cops in Los Angeles shot down seven unarmed Negroes every
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Negro in the audience knows what I'm talking about but when I say that he shot that they shot seven Muslims then a
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lot of the Negroes don't realize that because you say you use the term colored people you said I don't think I just
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call it on this program he's not colored I think so black people outside you do that well we can use black and let me
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get back to another point that you made you said that you go back home now what do you mean by back home I've only heard
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the Honorable Elijah Muhammad say back among our own people from way back home you don't like back home but by that you
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mean back into the roots of Islam or do you mean back to Africa back home and
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back home he means back into our original civilization and if you study history the Islamic culture existed in
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West Africa but you didn't come from an Islamic background originally did it I mean you came from from the proud tribes
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of Africa which I think that one of the that Islam the Islamic culture there's really there is all existing widely in
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Africa Central Africa I agree I've met many people in there mr. O'Connor with
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regard to that tragedy out there in Los Angeles I myself refer to it but when it
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happened as the tragic police action so I am not totally biased thank you coming from Mohammed speaks
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which is the publication of your ear cult or your religion Elijah pool Elijah
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Muhammad referred to the policeman out there the white policeman as Devils he
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said there is no justice here for us black people there is no future for us nor our children in civilized America
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doesn't that imply that you're gonna get out or that's his wish that you get out if he referred to those policemen out
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there as Devils who had who were heavily armed and knew that the meant the Negroes whom they were shooting down in
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cold blood were not heavily armed I don't think that those policemen themselves were denied at their Devils
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nor with any Negro who witnessed such a deed deny that their devil about the other part of
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there's no justice here for us black people there's no future for us nor our children and civilized American I didn't
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make that up Peake he said it in his own and he's correcting what he says sir well what does it mean is I mean you're gonna get out it means the same thing
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that attorney General Robert Kennedy's a means when he says that the number one domestic problem in America is the race
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problem that it is almost impossible to solve it it's almost impossible to give justice to Negroes what has been the
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growth of the Muslim movement they're conflicting reports as to how many Muslims there are in the United States
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can you tell us well most critics say that the dissatisfied father Mohammed that the
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unemployed in the oppressed follow Mohammed and I think you'll agree the sociologist the economist and other
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experts say that the masses of black people are dissatisfied unemployed oppressed and fed up so that he actually
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gets his support at the mass level but now you have other Negroes at the class level who pretend not to go for him
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because usually their job has been given to them by the white man they are they have positions to which they have been
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appointed and they think that the only way that they can protect their job is by pretending in the front in front of
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the white man that they don't go for mr. Mohammed either but you how many are Muslim it always say there are in the
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numbers I couldn't say I've never heard him say and he's the only one who would know 500,000 I couldn't say I think that
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anyone who does say is not in a position to know and anyone who knows wouldn't say what do you think that the Urban
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League in the n-double a-c-p have accomplished for your people look sure their own way they have been doing their
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best to bring about freedom justice and equality and human dignity for the black people in this country but today you
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have such a an intense degree of dissatisfaction and impatience existing
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among our people at the mass level that it is almost impossible to come to them where the program is going to take
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another hundred years to solve their problem and they'd still be satisfied the way so that they have the Urban
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League and in double-a-c-p has done a good job within their understanding but today it takes more
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immediate solutions and the solution that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has is immediate it's a new tactic
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not moving fast enough well they're moving as fast as they can but that's not fast enough for the masses of black
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people if a person is sitting on a warm stove and you get ready to let him up no matter how slow you are he has patience
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because it's only warm but the masses of black people who are sitting on a hot stove they're impatient and no matter
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how fast you say progress is being made toward letting them up that progress is not fast enough for them
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well the n-double-a-cp at the Urban League have both been critical of the of the Muslim the n-double-a-cp and Urban
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League have been maneuvered into criticizing us against their own will usually the divide-and-conquer tactics
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have always been used by the oppressor to keep the oppressed oppressed and the n-double a-c-p has been used against the
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Muslims efforts have been made to use us against them but the Honorable Elijah Muhammad says he'll work with the n-double-a-cp
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the Urban League in any other Negro organization that wants to uplift the black man as long as it doesn't conflict
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with our religious principle I remember once when the Elijah was quoted as having said that the Urban League in the
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n-double-a-cp sold out to the white man has he ever made that started to my knowledge I don't think that he has said
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that they sold out to the white man I've heard him say that as his stealing there the n-double-a-cp has been in existence
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for 54 years and from India they elect a new national president every year and they have never elected a black man to
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sit in that capacity Arthur Spingarn has been president of the n-double a-c-p for 24 years and so in this sense it means
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that either they're practicing discrim the same discrimination that they accused the white man of practicing they're practicing it themselves
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or else they're not qualifying other Negroes in that organization for positions of leadership this is our only
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criticism I personally feel that they have sold out to the white man those organs you personally feel those
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organizations have sold out to the white man I don't think that they would knowingly allow themselves to be used or
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misused against their own people so if they are failing to do the job that they're people that our people are expecting them probably it's just
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through lack of understanding but today their understanding is increasing and you'll find that they're developing a
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better ability to work with all different factions for the betterment of our people
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Malcolm how do you yourself feel about the white man I believe that the white man has done a great injustice to the
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black man in this country by having kidnapped our people and and brought us here then down to the
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level that we're on today and today instead of approaching the factors that their original mistake has created
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instead of approaching these factors objectively and realistically the greatest sin that they're doing now is
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trying to buy is trying to pretend that they never committed a crime that they never did any wrong and when the
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Honorable Elijah Muhammad points out the end justices that our people are suffering that's they they they make
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that same worse by accusing him of teaching hate or by accusing him of black supremacy or by accusing him of
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advocating violence simply because he is pointing out the real vectors and we have little time left you don't have to
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hurry so much knowledge on one white man named Lincoln supposedly fought the
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civil war to solve the race problem and the problem is still here another white man named Lincoln again the same white
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man issued the Emancipation Proclamation to solve the race problem and problem is still here some more white liberals came
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along with the 13th 14th and 15th which were supposed to solve the race problem the problem is still here nine years ago
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nine more white liberals so-called came up with what they call the Supreme Court desegregation decision and the problem
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is still here and then another white man named Kennedy came along running for president and told Negroes what all he was going to do for them if they voted
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for him and they voted for him 80% he's been in office now for three years and the problem is still here when
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police dogs were biting black women and black children and black babies in Birmingham Alabama that Kennedy talked
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about what he couldn't do because no old federal law had been violated and as soon as the Negroes exploded and began
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to protect themselves and got the best of the crackers in Birmingham then Kennedy sent for the troops and there was no he healed he didn't have any new
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law when he sent for the troops when the Negroes erupted then he had at the time when whites were erupting so we are
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within our rights and with justice with justification when we expressed doubt
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concerning the ability of the white man to solve our problem and also when we expressed doubt concerning his integrity
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concerning his and see his sincerity because you will have to confess that the problem has been around for a long time and whites have been
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saying the same thing about it for the past hundred years and there's no nearer solution today than it was 100 years ago
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[Music] who taught you please who taught you to heat the texture of your hair
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who taught you to heat the color of your skin to such extent that you bleach to
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get like the white man who taught you to heat the shape of your nose and the
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shape of your lips who taught you to heat yourself from the top of your head to the soles of your
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feet who taught you to heat your own kind who taught you to hate the race that you
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belong to so much so that you don't want to be around each other you know before
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you come asking mr. Muhammad does he teach hate you should ask who yourself who taught you to hate being what God
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gave you [Applause]
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we teach you to love the hair that God gave here you way out in the middle of
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the ocean can't swim and you worried about someone that's in the bathtub and
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can't swim
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we don't steal we don't gamble we don't lie and we
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don't cheat and that also deprives the government of revenue because you can't
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get into a whiskey bottle without getting past the government seal you cannot on the deck of cards without
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getting past the government see there the white man makes the whiskey and put you in jail for getting drunk
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he sells you the cards and the dice and puts you in jail when he catches you using so he's against us because we fix
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it where he can't catch you anymore we take the dice out of your hands and the cars out of your hand and the whiskey
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out of your head the most disrespected person in America is the black woman the
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most unprotected one a person in America is the black woman the most neglected
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person in America is the black woman and as Muslims the Honorable Elijah Muhammad
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teaches us to respect our women and to protect our women then the only time a
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Muslim really gets real family is when someone goes to molest his woman we will
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kill you for our woman I'm making it plain yes we will kill you for our world
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we believe that if the white man will do whatever is necessary to see that his
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woman gets respect and protection then you and I will never be recognized as men until we stand up like men and
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placed the same penalty over the head of anyone who puts his filthy hands out to
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put in the direction of our
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my personal political philosophy ISM which means that the black man should
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control the politics of his own community and control the politicians who are in his own community
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man we should be - you seem to be
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dissatisfied with everything just what are you wrong I'm not dissatisfied with everything like you what you are able to see with
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your analytical mind is that everything that is offered that he produced what it's supposed to produce and I'm just
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telling you that it doesn't produce what it is supposed to produce but what is your ultimate aim the only way the
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problem can be solved first the fight men in the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table the white man
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has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings or both Negro and the so-called Negro has to
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feel free to speak isn't in mine without hurting the feelings of the right man then they can bring the issues that are
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under the rug on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved that's the only way we
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need an action program while we are we are we are we still need an action
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program but will eliminate these evils that are in our community this is what we're trying to do with the Muslim
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mosque incorporated do you consider yourself militant I can throw myself now
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slavery when black people like me talk to the slave they didn't kill him
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they sent some old house Negro along behind him to undo what he says you have
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to read the history of slavery to understand this there were two kind of Negroes over that old house Negro and the field Negroes and the house Negro
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always looked out for his master when the field Negroes got too much out of line he held him back in check he put
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him back on the plantation the house Negro for the port to do that because he lived better than the field negro he
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ain't better better and he lived in a better house he lives right up next to his master in the attic or the basement
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he ate the same food at master and wore his same clothes and he could talk just
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like his master master good diction and he loved his master more than his master loved himself that's why he didn't want
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his master hurt if the master got sick he say what's the matter boss we sick when the Masters house caught afire he
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try and put the fire out he didn't want his master house burned he never wanted his master's property threatened and he
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was more defensive other than the master was that was the house negro but then you had been field negro who lived in
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him up had nothing to lose they wore the worst kind of clothes they ain't the
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worst food in the cartel they felt the sting of the lash they hated their
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master oh yes they did
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[Music] if the Mastiff house caught afire this way for a strong wind to come along this
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was the difference between the two and today you still have House Negroes and field Negroes I'm a field negro no this
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is done by those who are guilty of all those things that should be the counterpart of all those things you just mentioned the white people who were
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guilty of white supremacy try and hide their own guilt by accusing the Honorable Elijah Muhammad of teaching
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black supremacy when he tries to uplift the mentality the social mental economic
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condition of black people in this country and Jews who have been guilty of exploiting the black people in this
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country economically civically and otherwise hide behind I did guilt by
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accusing the Honorable Elijah Muhammad of teaching of being anti-semitic simply because he teaches our people to go into
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business for ourselves and try and take over the economic leadership in our own community and this other thing white
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supremacy anti-semitism and what was under her and hatred and hatred and since the white people collectively have
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practiced the worst form of hatred against Negroes in this country and they know that they are guilty of it now the
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only the Honorable Elijah Muhammad begins to comes along and begins to list the historic Deen the historic attitude
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the historic behavior of the white man in this country toward the black people in this country again the white people
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are so guilty that they and they can't stop doing these things to make mr.
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Muhammad appear wrong so they hide their wrong by saying that he is teaching
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hatred history is not hatred actually we are Muslims because we believe in a religion of Islam we believe in one God
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we believe in Muhammad as the apostle of God we practice the principles of the religion of Islam which mean prayer
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charity fasting Brotherhood in the Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that since the Western society is
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deteriorating it has become overrun with immorality that God is going to judge it
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and destroy it and the only way black people who are in this society can be saved is to not integrate into this
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corrupt but separate ourselves from it reform ourselves lift up our moral standards
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and try and be godly instead of trying try and integrate with God instead of trying to integrate with the white man
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or try and imitate God instead of trying to imitate with the white man it has been it has been suggested also that
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this movement preaches the gospel of violence but now all the black people in
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this country have been the victims of violence at the hands of the white man for 400 years and following the ignorant
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Negro preachers we have thought that it was godlike to turn the other cheek to the group that was realizing us and
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today the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is showing black people in this country that just as the white man and every
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other person on this earth has god-given rights natural rights civil rights any kind of Rights that you can think of
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when it comes to defending himself black people should have we should have the right to defend ourselves also and
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because the Honorable Elijah Muhammad makes black people brave enough men enough to defend ourselves no matter
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what the odds are the white man runs around here with the fallout with the doctrine that we are mr. Muhammad is
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advocating violence when he's actually telling Negroes to defend themselves against violent people they say well
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Reverend Martin Luther King preaches a doctrine of non-violent insistence upon
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the rights of the American Negro what is your attitude philosophy the white man
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pays Reverend Martin Luther King subsidizes Reverend Martin Luther King so that Reverend Martin Luther King can
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continue to teach the Negroes to be defenseless that's what you mean by non-violent be defenseless be
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defenseless in the face of one of the most cruel beasts that has ever taken the people into captivity that's this
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the American white man and they approved it throughout the country by the police dogs and the police clubs a hundred
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years ago they used to put put on a white sheet and use a bloodhound against Negroes today they have taken off the white
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sheet and put on police uniform they've traded in the bloodhounds for police dog and they're still doing the same thing
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and just as Uncle Tom back during slavery used to keep the Negroes from resisting the bloodhound or resisting
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the Ku Klux Klan by teaching them to to love their enemy or pray for those who use them despitefully today Martin
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Luther King is just a 20th century or modern Uncle Tom or a religious Uncle Tom who doing the same thing today to keep
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Negroes defenseless in the face of the fact that uncle town bid on the plantation to keep those Negros
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defenseless in the in the face of the attacked of the Klan in that day but the goal of dr. King is full equality and
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full rights of citizenship for Negroes the goal of dr. Martin Luther King is to give Negroes a chance to sit in a
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segregated restaurant we took beside the same white man who had brutalized them for 400 years the goal of dr. Martin
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Luther King is to get Negroes to forgive the people who have realized them for 400 years by by lulling them to sleep
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and making them forgetting what those whites have done to them but the masses of black people in America today don't
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go for what Martin Luther King is putting down as you said in one of your articles it's psychologically insecure
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something of that sort of forget how he put it but you didn't endorse what Martin Luther King was doing yourself or I do
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not reject his goals of full integration and full equality rights for American citizens do you reject these if you
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don't think that he's walking on the right Road I'm quite sure you don't agree that he'll get to the right place and if you would classify his method as
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psychologically unrealistic I think that if a man's method is psychologically
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unrealistic which means the road or the means or the method that he's using I think as a psychologist you'll be very
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doubtful that he would reach the right goal there is one correction Minister Malcolm I would like to make here in
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that same piece that you're quoting from I said that he his methods are effective his philosophy of love of the oppressor
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I thought was psychologically burdensome but I would be more interested in your goals what are the goals of the movement
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which you represent so effectively just as you said in the same article see we're trying to mr. Muhammad is trying
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to get up on God science well God will be on our side and help us to fight our battles against the very vicious
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deceitful hypocritical enemy and this is why mr. Muhammad put so much stress upon
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moral Reformation that when Negroes stop getting drunk when Negroes stop fornicating and committing adultery when
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Negroes stop being addicted to drugs and these things that destroy the moral fiber and the morale
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the Negro then our people will be able to get together men unite and harmony and unity and get our own problem south
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toward what end would you want our people United what being on God's side the Honorable Elijah
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Muhammad teaches us that God no is about to establish a kingdom on this earth based upon Brotherhood and peace and the
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white man is against Brotherhood in the white man is against peace is history on this earth it proved that nowhere in
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history has he been brotherly toward anyone the only time I made brotherly charges when he can use you when he can exploit you when he can oppress you when
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you will submit to him and since his own history makes him unqualified to be an
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inhabitant or a citizen citizen in a kingdom of brotherhood the Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that God is
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about to eliminate that particular race from this earth so since they are due for elimination we don't want to be with
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them we're not trying to integrate with that which we know has come to the end of its rope we're trying to trying to separate from it and get with something
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that's more lasting we think that God is more lasting than the white man so in effect Minister Malcolm your movement
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does not share the integration goals of the n-double a-c-p core Martin Luther
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King the movement and the Student Nonviolent you don't integrate with a sinking ship you don't do anything to
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Turk to further your stay onboard a ship that you see is on its way down to the bottom of the ocean Moses tried to
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separate as people from Pharaoh and when he tried the magician's tried to fool the people in this thing with Pharaoh and we look upon these other
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organizations that are trying to get Negroes to integrate with this boom white man there's nothing but modern-day magicians and the Honorable Elijah
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Muhammad has the modern-day Moses who trying to separate us from the modern day Pharaoh well do you feel that the
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Negroes who are attempting to end once the policies and actions of our
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federal government the Attorney General the president the United States when our when when the James Baldwin recently had
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a conference with Robert Kennedy he took Lena Horne who's married to a white man Lorraine Hansberry who's married to a
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white man Belafonte who's married to a white woman Edwin Berry of the Urban League who's
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married to a white woman now and whenever you have a group of black people sitting down with a white man
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supposed to represents the black masters you can never get anybody who's involved in any intermarriage in any kind of
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situation who will be qualified to represent to represent themselves as spokesman for the black masters in this
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country they were representing their own personal desires they want a mix and mingle so that they are they can take
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their wife they can go any of these places with their wife they're involved in a mixed marriage but you can't find masters fear of black people who will
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accept any black man who's married to a white man as a spokesman for black people's or a black woman who's married
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to a white man as a spokesman or representative of what black people feel and think what do you feel they grow to
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do in respect to the painting even more effective protection from our federal government you never will get protection
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from the federal government that's like King is asking Kennedy to go to Alabama and stand in the doorway put his body in
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the doorway that's like asking the Foxx to protect you from the wolf and when Blackman and now the masses of black
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people can see this and it is only the Negro leadership that Boone's you are hand thick handful of Negroes who think
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that they're going to get some kind of respect recognition or protection from the government the government is responsible for for what is happening to
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black people in this country the president has power you didn't know you notice he didn't send any dog any troops
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in the Birmingham to protect the Negroes when the dogs were biting the Negroes the only time he sent troops into
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Birmingham was when the Negroes erupted and then the president sent troops in there not to protect the Negroes to
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protect them white people down there from those erupting Negroes Negro Americans citizens if they were
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citizens he wouldn't have a race problem if the emancipation proclamation was authentic you wouldn't have a race problem you have to port if the 13th
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14th 15th amendment to the Constitution was authentic you wouldn't have a race problem if the Supreme Court
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desegregation decision was authentic you wouldn't have a race problem all of this is hypocrisy and it is this hypocrisy
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that has been practiced by the so-called white so-called liberal for the past 400 years that compounds the problem makes
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it more complicated instead of eliminating the problem what Minister Malcolm what do you see as the future of
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the Negro in America if the you think will be the culmination of the present
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thrust until the white man in America sits down and talks with the Honorable
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Elijah Muhammad he won't even know what the race problem it what makes the race
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problem what it is and it just like Pharaoh couldn't get a solution to his problem until he talked to Moses or never could knees or
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Belshazzar couldn't get a solution to his problem till he talked to Daniel the white man in America today will never understand the race problem or come
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anywhere near getting a solution to the race problem until he talks to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad then mr. Muhammad will give him God's analysis
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not some kind of political analysis or psychologist analysis analysis or some kind of clergyman's analysis but God's
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analysis that's the analysis that Moses gave Pharaoh that's the analysis that Daniel gate Belshazzar and today we have
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a modern Belshazzar and a modern pharaoh sitting in Washington DC what do you
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think is going to happen in Birmingham in Jackson Mississippi
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Philadelphia in Boston in Englewood well dr. Clark as you know these Negro
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leaders have been telling the white man everything is alright everything's under control and they've been telling the white men and mr. Muhammad is wrong
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don't listen to him but everything that mr. Mohammed has been saying is going to come to pass it is now coming to pass
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and now the Negro leaders are standing up saying that we're about to have a racial explosion you're going to have a
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racial explosion and a racial explosion is more dangerous than an atomic explosion it's going to explode because
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black people at dissatisfied they're dissatisfied not only with the white man but they're dissatisfied with these
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Negroes who have been sitting around here posing as leaders and spokesmen for black people and actually making the
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problem worse instead of making the problem better what will be the consequence of this explosion anytime you put too many sparks around a powder
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keg the thing is going to explode and if the thing that explodes is still inside the house then the house will be
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destroyed so the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is telling the white man get this powder keg out of your house let the black
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people in this country separate from you while there's still time and if the black man has allowed the separate and
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go on some unto some land of his own where he can solve his own problems and there won't be any explosion and the
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Negroes who want to stay with the white man let them stay with the white man or those who want to leave let him go go with the Honorable Elijah Muhammad
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Minister Malcolm the only thing that can save us from a catastrophic explosion is
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complete separation complete separation is the only solution to the black and white problem in this country
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[Applause]
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Salam alaikum mr. moderator our
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distinguished guests brothers and sisters our friends and our enemies
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[Applause]
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everybody is here as many of you know
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last March when it was announced that I
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was no longer in the Black Muslim movement it was pointed out that it was
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my intention to work among the 22 million non-muslim afro-americans
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and to try and form some type of organization or create a situation where
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the young people our young people the students and others could study the
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problems of our people for a period of time and then come up with a new analysis and give us some new ideas and
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some new suggestions as to how to approach a problem that too many other people have been playing around with for
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too long and that we would have some kind of meeting and determined at a
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later date whether to form the black nationalist party or black nationalist
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army [Music] [Applause]
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there have been many of our people across the country from all walks of life who have taken it upon themselves
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to try and pull their ideas and to come up with some kind of solution to the
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problem that confronts all of our people and tonight we are here to try and get
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an understanding of what it is they've come up with also recently when I was
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blessed to make a trip or pilgrimage a religious pilgrimage to the holy city of
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Mecca where I met many people from all over the world plus spent many weeks in
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Africa trying to broaden my own scope and get an open a more of an open mind
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to look at the problem as it actually is one of the things that I realized and I
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realized this even before going over there was that the our African brothers have gained their independence faster
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than you and I'm here in America head they've also gained recognition and
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respect as human beings much faster than you and I just ten years ago on the
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African continent our people were colonized they were suffering all forms of colonization
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oppression exploitation degradation humiliation discrimination and every other kind of issue and in a short time
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they have gained more independence more recognition more respect as human beings
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than you and I had and you and I live in a country which is supposed to be the sitter that all of Education freedom
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justice democracy and all of those other pretty sounding words to try and find
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out what was our African brothers doing to get results so that you and I could study what they had done and perhaps
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gain from that study or benefit from their experiences and in my traveling
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over there was designed to help to find out how one of the first things that the
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independent African nations did was to form an organization called the organization of African Unity the
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purpose of our organization of afro-american unity which has the same aim and
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objective to fight whoever gets an hour
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to bring about the complete independence of people of African descent here in the
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Western Hemisphere and first here in the United States and bring about the
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freedom of these people by any means necessary [Applause]
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that's our motto the purpose of our organization is to start right here in
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Harlem which has the largest concentration of people of African descent that exists anywhere on this
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earth there are more Africans here in Harlem then exist in any city on the
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African continent because that's what you and I are Africans the charter of
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the United Nations the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the Constitution of the United States and
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the Bill of Rights are the principles in which we believe and that these documents is put into practice
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represents the essence of mankind's hopes and and good intentions desire is
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that all and pro-american people and organizations should henceforth unite so that the welfare and well-being of our
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people will be assured we are resolved to reinforce the common bond of purpose
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between our people by submerging all of our differences and establishing
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non-sectarian constructive programs for human rights we hereby present this
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Charter number one the establishment the organization of afro-american unity
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shall include all people of African descent in the Western Hemisphere in
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essence what is it thingy instead of you and me running around here seeking allies in our struggle for freedom in
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the Irish neighborhood or the Jewish neighborhood or the Italian neighborhood we need to we need to seek some allies
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among people who look something like and once we get there alive this time
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out for you and me to stop running away from the wolf right into the arms of the
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Fox looking for some kind of help
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number two South defense
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since self-preservation is the first law of nature we assert the afro-americans
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right to self-defense the Constitution of the United States of America clearly
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affirms the right of every American citizen to bear arms and as Americans we
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will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution the history the history of unpunished
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violence against our people clearly indicates that we must be prepared to
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defend ourselves or we will continue to be a defenseless people at the mercy of
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a ruthless and violent racist mom [Applause]
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you
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today in our discussion of minority groups we have with us two guests one is
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Minister Malcolm X Shabazz one of the top leaders of the Nation of Islam or
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the so-called black Muslims and we also have mr. Herman Blake one of the
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teaching assistants in the course we
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will discuss today some of the the goals and some of the strategies of the Nation
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of Islam and I wonder if mr. Blake might started off by asking mr. Shabazz a
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question a minister Malcolm the thing that I thought might be good for starting it off is to talk about one of
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the most pervasive beliefs in the general society about the Nation of Islam and that is that it is an
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organization dedicated to the use of violent means to attain its goals the
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question I have is how true is this and why do you think it persists in society
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well the Muslims accepted the religion
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of Islam and follow the religious guidance of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad have never vomit any churches
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have never murdered any little girls as was done in Birmingham have never
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lynched anybody have never at any time been guilty of initiating any aggressive
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acts of violence during the entire 33
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years or more that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has been teaching us the charge
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of violence against us actually stems from the guilt complex that exists in
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the conscious and subconscious minds of most white people in this country
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they know that they've been violent in their brutality against Negroes and they
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feel that some day the Negro is going to wake up and try and do unto them as they
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have done unto do unto the whites as the whites have done unto us we are the
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violent group we do we are taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad to be to obey
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the law to respect everyone who respects us we're taught to display courtesy to
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be polite but we're also taught that at any time anyone in any way inflicts or
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seeks to inflict violence upon us we are within our religious rights to retaliate
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in self-defense to the maximum degree of our ability we
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never initiate any violence upon anyone but if anyone attacks us we reserve the
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right to defend ourselves so to accuse us of being violence is like accusing a man who is being lynched
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who is being hung on a tree simply because he struggles vigorously against
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his Lynch ur the victim is accused of violence but the Lynch herb is never
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accused of violence and I only point this out because the various racists
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groups that are set up in this country by whites and who have actually
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practiced violence against Blacks for four hundred years are never associated
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or identified or made synonymous with the term violence but white speak of
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Muslims almost synonymously with violence whenever Muslims are mentioned by them balances brother but not but
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it's not connected with any other group this is a sort of a propaganda tactic or what I would call psychological warfare
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to in some way mate in some way
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no Negro leaders have fought for civil rights fighting for civil rights they
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have begged the white men for civil rights they have begged the white men for freedom and every time anytime you beg another man to set you free you will
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never be free freedom is something that you have to do for yourselves and until the American Negro lets the white man
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know that we are really really ready and willing to pay the price that is necessary for freedom our people will
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always be walking around here second-class citizens or what you call twentieth-century slaves what price are
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you talking about sir the price of freedom is death
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in the name of Allah the beneficent the merciful to whom all praise is due whom
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we forever thank for giving us the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is our leader teacher and guide and I specifically
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ladies and gentlemen and brothers and sisters open up like that because I am a
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representative of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and were it not for him you and
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I wouldn't be here today [Music]
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in order for you and me to devise some kind of method or strategy to offset
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some of the events or repetition of the events that have taken place here in Los
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Angeles recently we have to go to the roof we have to go to the cause dealing
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with the condition itself is not enough we have to get to the cause of it all or
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the roof of it all and it is because of our effort toward getting straight to
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the roof that people oftentimes think we are dealing in hate but first I would
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like to congratulate and give praise to the Negro so called Negro leaders and
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so-called Negro organizations and excuse me if I say so called it's hard for me
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to just outright say Negro when I know what that word Negro really means
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the person whom you have come to know as Ronald soaks we know him as brother
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round one of the most religious persons who displayed the highest form of morals
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of any black person anywhere on this earth and as one of the previous
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speakers pointed out who knew him everyone who knew him had to give him credit for being a good man a clean man
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an intelligent man and an innocent man when he was murdered
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the negro so-called Negro organizations and and leaders should be given great
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credit for their failure or refusal to let the white man divide them and use
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them one against the other during this crisis
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as Reverend Welford wilson pointed out I
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think it was eight years ago today that the Supreme Court handed down the desegregation decision and despite the
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fact that eight years have gone past that decision hasn't been implemented
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yet I don't have that much faith I don't
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have that much confidence I don't have that much patience and I don't have that
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much ignorance
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if the Supreme Court which is the highest law making body in the country
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can pass a decision that can't get even eight percent compliance within eight
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years because it's for black people than my patience has run out
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when black people who are being oppressed become impatient they say that
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emotional please when black people who
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are being deprived of their citizenship not only of their civil rights but there
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are human rights become impatient become fed up don't want to wait any longer
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then they say that's emotion
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the Negro also called Negro leaders and organizations should be praised they
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should be congratulated they should be complimented because out of all of them
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combined the white man has not yet found one who will play the role of Uncle Tom
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but yet he has found no tongue no puppet no parrot who is still dumb enough in
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1962 to represent the in justices that he's depicted against our people we
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don't care what your religion is we don't care what organization you belong
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to we don't care how far in school you went or didn't go we don't care what
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kind of job you have we have to give you credit for shocking the white man by not
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letting him divide you and use you one against the other
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in the past the greatest weapon the white man has had has been his ability
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to divide and conquer as Jackie Robinson pointed out beautifully on the
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television last night four-fifths of the world isn't white isn't that what Jackie said
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and if horses of the world is star how is it possible for 1/5 to rule oppress
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exploit dominate and brutalize the horses who are in the majority that's
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how we do it divide example if I take my hand and slap you you don't even feel it
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it might sting you because these digits are separated but all I have to do to
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put you back in your place is bring those digits together
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this is what the white man has done to you and me he has divided us and used us one
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against the other but today thanks to Allah you can say thanks to God all
1:00:23
thanks to Jesus all thanks to Jehovah whatever you want
1:00:32
but as a follower of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad we have been tough to say thanks to
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Allah and that's what Jesus said Jesus called on Allah he said Allah
1:00:42
Allah ask about Denise I believe what what's good for TV this is good for you
1:00:48
if Allah was good enough for Jesus to call upon I think he should be good enough for you to call the heart since
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the so-called Negro community has shot the white man by resisting all efforts
1:01:03
to divide us I think that you and I should continue to shock him by seeing
1:01:09
and working together in unity despite religious political economic or
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educational or social differences let us remember that we are not brutalized
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because we're Baptists we're not brutalized because we're a Methodist we're not brutalized because we're
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Muslims were not brutalized because we're Catholics were brutalized because
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we are black people in America the
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so-called Negro community has shot the white men by resisting all efforts to
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divide us I think that you and I should continue to shock him by seeing and
1:01:52
working together in unity despite religious political economic or educational or social differences let us
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remember that we are not brutalized because we're Baptists we're not brutalized because we're a
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Methodist we're not brutalized because we're Muslims were not brutalized
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because we're Catholic we're fertilized because we are black people in America
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there your mother is being raped and you're not supposed to being emotional no women please your women can't walk
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the street without some pickup putting his hand gone up
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if you say this you're fed up if you teach the Negros they don't even know
1:02:53
their own name right because he took it away from please please twenty million
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black people don't even know their own language why because he took it away from people who don't even know the
1:03:07
history of their ancestors why because he took it away from trying to tell them
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how far are they completely they've been robbed he says you're teaching hey
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[Music]
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today you are coming out of college you're coming out of the leading universities you're trying to pull in a
1:03:36
5th direction that you don't know which direction to go in and if somebody tries
1:03:41
to take you right to the root of your problem they say that that man's a hate teacher if I if I ask why should the
1:03:48
Senators in Washington and then again if we tell you that Negroes are being hung
1:03:53
on the tree or being shot down illegally unjustly and those Negroes should do
1:04:00
something to protect themselves you say you're advocating violence the white man
1:04:05
is tricking you he's trapping you he doesn't call it violence when he lands troops in South Vietnam please please
1:04:16
he doesn't call it balance when he lends troops in Berlin when the Japanese
1:04:21
attacked Pearl Harbor he didn't say get nonviolent he said praise the Lord that past the ammunition
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[Applause]
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but when someone attacks you when someone comes at you with a club when
1:04:44
someone comes at you with a rope when someone comes at you with a gun despite
1:04:49
the fact that you've done nothing he tells you suffer peacefully pray for
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those who use you despite it belong something and how long can you suffer
1:05:02
after suffering for 400 years so I just
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want to play off that little point right there because these friends that we play on your emotions and when you turn on
1:05:15
your television tonight or your radio or read the newspaper they're going to tell
1:05:21
you in that paper that I was playing on your emotions imagine you a second-class
1:05:26
citizen that's not getting emotional is getting intelligence
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[Music] and as far as your your mayor is
1:05:38
concerned I see should say their mayor a man named Jordy who has been slandering
1:05:47
their Muslims a professional liar a professional liar
1:06:00
who has mastered the art of using half-truths put it in the paper that
1:06:06
they break into our religious place of worship and got records that they can
1:06:12
use to prove that most of us have criminal records you can't be a Negro in
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America and not have a criminal record
1:06:30
Martin Luther King has been to jail clean James Palmer has been to jail
1:06:38
while you can't name a black man in this country who was sick and tired of the
1:06:43
hell that he's catching who hasn't been to jail charged him with being seditious
1:06:49
they put Moses in jail they put Daniel in jail why you haven't got a man of God
1:06:56
in the Bible that wasn't put to jail when they started speaking out against exploitation and oppression
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they charge Jesus with sedition didn't
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didn't they do that they said he was the gate seat they said he was discriminating because
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he told us to this his disciples go not the way of the Gentiles but rather go to
1:07:29
the lost sheep he discriminated don't go there the Gentiles go to the lost sheep
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go to the oppressed go to the down trap go to the exploited go to the people who
1:07:43
don't know who they are who are lost from the knowledge of themselves and who are strangers in a land that is not
1:07:49
theirs go to those people go to the slaves go to the second-class citizen go
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to the ones who are suffering the brunt of Caesars brutality and if Jesus were
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here in America today he wouldn't be going to the white man the right man is the oppressor he would be going to the
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oppressed he would be going to the humble he would be going to the lowly he
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would be going to the rejected in the despised he would be going to the so-called American negro
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[Applause]
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to be able to have to have once thinner criminal there's no disgrace to remain a
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criminal is the disgrace I or merely was
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a criminal I formerly was in prison I'm not ashamed of that you never can use that over my head and
1:08:52
that he's using the wrong stick I don't feel that stick
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I went to prison because I believe in men like Sam yard I went to prison
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because I trusted men like Sam yardie I went to prison following the philosophy of men like Sam Urie
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but since I've been following the Honorable Elijah Muhammad I have been reformed and that's more please
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that's more than seniority and chief Parker and all these other white politicians has been able to do with the
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inmates in the prison's of this state they should give mr. Mohammed credit they should give mr. Mohammed credit for
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reforming and rehabilitating men whom they have failed to reform and rehabilitation
1:09:49
the aorta repaired survey some press report that mr. Mohammed had once been
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found guilty of contributing to the delinquency of a minor he failed to
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explain purposely that in 1934 the Honorable Elijah Muhammad refused to
1:10:09
send his children to the white schools in Detroit Michigan that were teaching you about little black Esther
1:10:17
that's the credits the minor that he contributed to the delinquency of you see this vicious forked tongue white
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name has been able to take lies and make you turn the gates
1:10:30
that's who want to help you and make others turn against you this is the contributing to the delinquency of our
1:10:36
minor that this mayor or a man who calls himself mayor is talking about in the
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same article he said that the Muslims are the same people who rioted in the
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United Nations someone should pull his coat and let him know that at the
1:10:53
present moment there are six million dollars worth of suits
1:10:58
leveled against two of New York's leading newspapers for making the
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mistake of charging the Muslims as being involved in north United Nations riots
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we were not involved and if this court tongue man who calls himself jail mayor
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had taken the time to find that out he wouldn't be walking into the trap that he's letting his ignorance lead him into
1:11:28
and if you take take the time to read The Washington Post that came out the
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Sunday after that incident took place The Washington Post pointed out on the front page that the Muslims had nothing
1:11:45
to do with the UN riots and they quitted it insane so the the person who was at
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that time the Commissioner of Police in New York City see it's lies that the
1:11:56
white man has spread about the Muslims to try and make you afraid of the Muslims or to try and make you think
1:12:03
that the Muslims were a criminal element uncouth element and things that you
1:12:09
would not like to be associated with why show they say that they I'm just
1:12:16
clearing these things up and then we're going to get into what happened they also say that the Honorable Elijah
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Muhammad was a draft dodger no he wasn't he just refused to go to
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the army because he was a man of peace he was a minister of a religion of peace
1:12:34
he was teaching peace so he outright refused to go to the home that's not
1:12:40
draft-dodging that's intelligence we are African and we happen to be in America
1:12:48
we're not American we are people who formerly were Africans who were
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kidnapped and brought to America we
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our forefathers weren't the pilgrims we didn't land on Plymouth Rock the rack
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was landed on us
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we were brought here against our will we were not brought here to be made
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citizens we were not brought here to enjoy the constitutional gifts that they
1:13:30
speak so beautifully about today because we weren't brought here to be made citizens today
1:13:35
now that we've become awakened to some degree and we begin to ask for those things which they say are supposedly for
1:13:42
Americans they look upon us with hostility and unfriendliness if you're
1:13:49
interested in freedom you need some judo you need some karate you need all the
1:13:56
things that will help you fight for freedom nationalism is the wave of the
1:14:01
present then the future it is nationalism that's bringing freedom to fourplus people all over the world that
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it was nationalism that brought freedom to the Algerians there was nationalism
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that brought freedom to the Nigerians and to the ghanaians it was nationalism that brought freedom
1:14:19
to the people of Uganda and Tanganyika and Sudan and family land the Africans
1:14:25
didn't get it by sitting in they didn't get it by wading in they didn't get it by singing we shall overcome they got it
1:14:33
- nationalism and
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and you and I will get it through nationalism what is it what is it that
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makes it difficult for the philosophy of nationalism to spread among the so-called Negroes number one they think
1:14:56
they have a stake in America they think they have an investment in this country
1:15:02
what we do we invested three hundred and ten years of slave labor three hundred
1:15:09
and ten years every day of which your and my mother and father worked for nothing not eight hours a day there was
1:15:17
no Union in that day they work from sunup until sundown from kids see in the
1:15:22
morning until can't see at night they never had a day off and on suddenly they
1:15:27
were allowed to sit down and sing about when they died they wouldn't be slaves no more when they died they wouldn't be
1:15:34
slaves no more they'd go up in the sky and every day would be suddenly that's a shame and it is that three hundred and
1:15:41
ten years of slave labor that went in that was my in your contribution into
1:15:47
this particular economy and political system they can give us the back pay
1:15:52
let's join it if it's what the Negro wants let's join in let's show him how
1:15:58
to struggle let's show him how to fight that show him how to bring about a real
1:16:03
revolution let's make him stop Giant
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you don't need a debate you don't need a filibuster you need some action
1:16:27
when I got to Paris the man said I
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couldn't come in some man French man
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they gave me no explanation other than to say we have our orders they wouldn't
1:16:44
let me phone the American Embassy and they tried to imply that the American Embassy was behind it which I told him
1:16:51
that I didn't know that France was a satellite of the United States well this made them angry because they
1:16:57
like to be independent you know or pretend to be independent they were taking their orders from someone as high
1:17:03
up in the French Foreign Ministry who did not want me to enter France and there's a reason for it I don't blame
1:17:10
them and because and I told them while I was there that maybe my plane got mixed
1:17:17
up and I was in South Africa in the wrong country I told him this couldn't be past Paris it must be Johannesburg
1:17:23
and they got red and you know how they can get red there's a large increasing
1:17:30
number of dark-skinned people swelling the pop of the dock population of France
1:17:35
and Britain and it is giving them a great deal of cause for worry no effort
1:17:41
has been made to unite the afro-american community or the American Negro community with the West Indian community
1:17:48
and then those two communities with the African community and those communities with the Asian community this has never
1:17:54
been done and this frighten many power many interests in this country many
1:18:00
people in this country who want to see us the minority and who don't want to see us taking to militant or to
1:18:05
uncompromising a stand are absolutely against the successful regrouping or
1:18:11
organizing of any faction in this country who's thought and who's thinking pattern is international rather than
1:18:17
national if there's a world why revolution going on it goes beyond
1:18:22
Mississippi it goes beyond Alabama don't be on Harlem what is it revolting against the power structure
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the American power structure no the French power structure no the English
1:18:36
power structure knows and what power structure an international Western power
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structure 22 million black victims of Americanism are waking up and they're
1:18:47
gaining a new political consciousness becoming politically mature and as they
1:18:52
become developed this political maturity they're able to see the recent trends in
1:18:58
these political elections they see that the whites are so evenly divided that every time they vote the race is so
1:19:05
close they have to go back and count the votes all over again and that which means that any blacks any
1:19:12
minority that has a black of votes that stick together is in a strategic position hey either way you go that's who gets it
1:19:18
you're you're in a position to determine who goes to the White House and who stay in the doghouse
1:19:27
you're the one who has that power you can keep Jensen in Washington DC or you
1:19:33
can send them back to his Texas cotton thing
1:19:40
you're the one who sent Kennedy to Washington you're the one who put the prison Democratic administration in
1:19:47
Washington DC the weights were evenly divided it was the fact that you threw 8% of your votes behind the Democrats
1:19:54
that put the Democrats in the White House just when you see this you can see that the Negro vote is the key factor
1:20:01
and despite the fact that you are in a position to the to be the determining factor what do you get out of it
1:20:08
the Democrats have been in Washington DC only because of the Negro vote they've
1:20:13
been down there for years and they're all other legislation they wanted to bring up they brought it up and get it
1:20:19
out of the way and now they bring up you and now they bring up you you put them
1:20:25
first and they put you last cuz you're a chump
1:20:36
a political chimp in Washington DC in
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the House of Representatives there are 257 who are Democrats only 177 are
1:20:49
Republican in the Senate there are 67 Democrats only 33 are Republicans the
1:20:56
party that Eubanks control two-thirds of the House of Representatives in the
1:21:01
Senate and still they can't keep their promise to you cause you're a chump
1:21:12
anytime you throw your weight behind the political party that controls two-thirds of the government and that party can't
1:21:18
keep the promise that it made to you during election time and you are dumb enough to walk around continuing to
1:21:23
identify yourself with that part of you're not only a chump but you're a traitor to your race
1:21:40
and what kind of alibi do they come up with they try and pass the buck to the Dixiecrats now they during the days when
1:21:47
you were blind deaf and dumb ignorant politically hammock immature naturally you went along with that but the day is
1:21:54
your eyes come open and you develop political maturity you're able to see and think for yourself and you can see
1:22:01
that Dixit rant is nothing but a Democrat in disguise you look at the
1:22:09
structure of the government that controls this country it's controlled by sixteen senatorial committees and 20
1:22:16
congressional committees of the 16 senatorial committees that run the government cannot demur in the hands of
1:22:22
southern segregations of the 20 congressional committees that run the government twelve of them in
1:22:28
there are in the hands of southern segregationists and they're going to tell you and me that the South lost the
1:22:33
wall
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I would like to make a few comments concerning the difference between the
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black revolution and the Negro Revolution there's a difference
1:22:57
are they both to sing and if they're not what is the difference what is the
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difference between a black revolution and a Negro revolution well what is a
1:23:11
revolution sometimes I'm inclined to believe that many of our people are
1:23:18
using this word revolution loosely without taking careful consideration but
1:23:25
this word actually means and what is historic characteristics are when you
1:23:33
study the historic nature of revolution the motive of a revolution the objective
1:23:42
of a revolution and a result of a revolution and the methods used in a
1:23:49
revolution you may change words you may
1:23:54
devise another program you may change your goal and you may change your mind
1:24:00
but get the American Revolution in 1776
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that revolution was for what four lane
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how was it - I did they want land independence how are they carried out
1:24:17
bloodshed number one it was based on laying the
1:24:26
basis of independence and the only way they could get it was bloodshed the
1:24:35
French Revolution but was it based on the lay unless against the landlord
1:24:44
what was it ballsy how did they get let's
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there is no love loss there's no compromise was no negotiation
1:24:56
I'm telling you don't know what a revolution is God when you find out what
1:25:01
it is you'll get back in the end we'll get out of the way
1:25:13
come on the Russian Revolution what was it based on land blameless
1:25:22
against the lien mode how do they blame it about what you
1:25:28
haven't got a revolution that doesn't involve bloodshed and you're afraid to
1:25:33
believe I sold you afraid to be known as
1:25:40
the white man saying the career you bled he sent you to Germany you bled he sent
1:25:46
you to the South Pacific to fight the Japanese you bled you bleed for great people but when it comes time for seeing
1:25:54
your own churches being bombed and little black girls mother never got no gun
1:26:14
you bleed when the white man says bleed you bite when the white man says bye and
1:26:21
you bow when the white man says brought I hate to say this about us but it's
1:26:27
true how you gonna be nonviolent in Mississippi as valid as you were in
1:26:32
Korea how can you justify being nonviolent in Mississippi and Alabama
1:26:38
when your churches will be bound and your little girls are being murdered and at the same time you'll all get violent
1:26:45
with Hitler and told you and somebody else that you don't even know
1:26:59
if violence is wrong in America violence is wrong abroad because wrong to be
1:27:06
violent defending black women and black children in black babies and black men
1:27:12
that it's wrong for America to draft us and make us violent abroad in the desert
1:27:26
and if it is right for America to Jack us and teach us how to be balanced in
1:27:35
defense of her it is right for you and me to do whatever is necessary to defend
1:27:45
our own people right here in this country
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you
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I go back to the question of housing and education let's let's pick education how
1:28:08
does one bring about compensatory action in education by having better schools
1:28:13
for young children than for white children if we is talking about integration this is a simple providing
1:28:18
by providing remiel training and reading and arithmetic and by providing the best
1:28:25
of teachers to these schools which have deprived children and by now when you
1:28:31
say deprived children they're not limiting this to Negro children of course the larger percentage of Negro
1:28:37
kids are deprived and whites and therefore I think a larger percentage of the most skilled teachers are required
1:28:43
in that section all right now III grant that the question the question I'm still trying to iron out and I think mr.
1:28:49
farmer has for me is this question as to whether the the compensation for
1:28:56
discrimination and the lack of equality is to be another kind of discrimination
1:29:02
or another kind of inequality and I think you answer that in the negative when you say that in the schools that
1:29:08
you would establish for the previously underprivileged or the under privilege would include schools for children not
1:29:15
just Negroes but Puerto Ricans and other underprivileged persons am I correct in
1:29:21
that assumption yes I think you're right there we I would not limit our employment demands to Negroes I would
1:29:27
include Puerto Ricans and other minorities throughout our country which have been similarly discriminated against though not for so long a period
1:29:33
of time as Negro warriors weren't enslaved here this is a problem that stems from slavery now in this
1:29:38
compensation yes sir this compensation is coming to people who were enslaved by the white man for 400 years before
1:29:44
Ricans don't even fit into this picture into it no no could it the problem is
1:29:50
the Negro profit they're not lynching reporter weaken if a Doris Gilberto Rican went down to Mississippi
1:29:56
you probably would you learn shoot vanish he would know he Lynch no they don't a neighbor here as long thing speaks Spanish a
1:30:03
summer the language or he ties it up with a weather turban or something can go anywhere in Mississippi are in your own that he desire not aware of the fact
1:30:09
are you that African students have been arrested in our demonstrations in the South when they finish speaking when
1:30:15
they have been mistaken for the so-called Negro in America they've been arrested what I'm saying is that many Puerto Ricans are mistaken for Negroes
1:30:22
and I do not think discrimination stems only from slavery let me let me turn to
1:30:27
mr. Walker I wanted you say that mr. farmers idea of compensatory treatment
1:30:34
of the Negro has portents of disaster if death and portents of disaster for the
1:30:39
system from which the Negro community is suffering and over against that I don't
1:30:45
think Malcolm X analogy of the nations in Africa that in Asia that a thing
1:30:51
ourselves you have there on the one hand a black or brown majority whereas the
1:30:57
Negro community in America is a black or brown minority and I don't think the
1:31:02
analogy quite holds water and this is why we Patrol philosophy comes out of
1:31:07
India this nonviolent thing is based upon a 404 hundred million Indians doing passive sit down on a hundred thousand
1:31:14
whites and unions that well in this country you're still a minority yet you're going to use techniques that would use by a doc minority in another
1:31:21
land I think you show how little you know about non-violence John degan his comp campaign among the Indians in South
1:31:27
Africa who are a minority and they're still in there still a minority and they still had the problem but again all we
1:31:33
got Gandy fame came from having gotten freedom for the people of India from the English and and he used non-violent
1:31:41
methods which means you have a great big dark development type creature sitting down on a little white mouse but here in
1:31:47
America you have a little black mouse trying to pull a sit down down down attack they don't only when you write
1:31:54
all this mr. chairman go ahead just for a minute and then I'll exercise nonviolent methods to enforce a break
1:32:00
Jessica non-violence is more effective when you have large numbers of people that is what we found out in Birmingham
1:32:06
it's what we found alcohol over North Carolina how did you wait a minute let me tell you what we've gained in North Carolina would you gain
1:32:11
let me tell you what we've gained there he can answer that this was his campaign in Birmingham asked me about all
1:32:18
campaign he gained in North Carolina let me tell you what we've gained we've gained jobs we've gained open employment
1:32:24
in Greensboro North Carolina the one of
1:32:30
the officials of the city who is in charge of employment has announced that he ran after all city employment will be
1:32:37
on a merit basis and there'll be no discrimination a committee has been set up whereby grievances of individuals who
1:32:44
feel that they've been discriminated against because of race will be dealt with we represented on that committee in
1:32:50
six cities in North Carolina the theaters have desegregated places that
1:32:56
serve the public and five cities have desegregated and the whole state is becoming an open state now wait a minute
1:33:03
it again to go to a theater for a man who hasn't got a job it's a way again a job it's a game to get a job and it's
1:33:10
jobs if we're providing now it's a game also to go to the theater if the game because it's not the theater so much
1:33:16
it's not the cup of coffee at the lunch counter it's the dignity that a person achieves is it a game to have a business
1:33:24
over on the other side of the tracks to which you can go but when you walk downtown you're discriminated against
1:33:29
and cannot go there the game when I say mr. X is that all places that serve the
1:33:36
public black and white must serve all members of the public we are members of the public whether you want to admit it
1:33:42
or not if we're not members of the public then what are we is why it concludes the race problem in this
1:33:48
country if we're members of the public where many of the public that's why we're trying to wipe out racial
1:33:53
discrimination well we are we are a segregated period well we'll work out off with dry however ineffectually over
1:34:00
the past 60 seconds try to have a break now and we'll be back in just a moment
1:34:06
Malcolm X I wonder whether you can accept the notion that a white man is no more responsible for his skin than is a
1:34:12
man was blocked if he's not responsible for his skin he is responsible for his deeds
1:34:18
and collectively the white people in this country are guilty today and must
1:34:24
accept the blame for the collective criminal act that was committed against
1:34:30
black people by bringing our people to this country and if it is not the
1:34:35
quietness of his skin for which the Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that he's entering into condemnation
1:34:40
today it is his deeth and he can't separate his you can't hardly separate needy from your skin the country that
1:34:48
has been established here has been established by white people for the benefit of white people the economic
1:34:53
system the political system the educational system of America has been set up primarily for the benefit of
1:35:00
white people many of our people were brought here in Chains possibly not on
1:35:05
the Mayflower but in slave ships to add to the American economy and we've been exploited politically economically and
1:35:12
otherwise ever since and many of these same white people Malcolm X are attempting now to change that structure
1:35:19
to change what it is that you say I think that there are very few there's no
1:35:24
one at this table and there very few people I know who would deny the validity of much that you described but the potential for the future the
1:35:32
potential not for the distant future but for the here and now I turn to mr. Walker and ask him whether in his own activities in the South which is so real
1:35:39
and have achieved certain things whether they haven't been achieved these achievements everything I meant to have
1:35:45
said it earlier but I think this principle of compensatory treatment
1:35:51
should also apply to any action taken by the federal government in trying to achieve equality of opportunity or
1:35:58
access to the national housing market now this is one of my major criticisms of President Kennedy's executive water
1:36:04
on housing it's it applies only to housing to be built from the date of the
1:36:09
of the order and and future a federally financed housing whereas to give the Negro people of this country a fair
1:36:16
break and really a chance to to get into housing to get out of ghettos he
1:36:23
would have included all housing that had been constructed with public funds that
1:36:28
sure all federally financed housing should have been included but he didn't and this is what is frequently happe happening when the rougarou makes the
1:36:34
game the game starts as of now but if it is all this Sunday does because Negro
1:36:41
didn't make the game see as long as someone is giving you something you can always take it back and this is the
1:36:46
mistake where this is where people are making the mistake we are sitting waiting for white nobody got anything
1:36:54
either either a direct I don't mean it than that sent either in court or out of court we've been sitting and waiting for
1:36:59
the man to give us some confessions now whenever you ask the you asking the white power structure for job that's
1:37:05
only a temporary solution if you ask the white power structure for housing that's a temporary solution as mr. farmer said
1:37:12
they were the negro used to ask for equality now he's asking for more he's asking for more than equality well
1:37:19
likewise if they give us more than equality ten years from now we're going to be asking for more than that because
1:37:24
the problem has still not gotten a real solution mr. Martin let me finish what I'm going to say as long as we accept
1:37:31
the temporary solution the problem we'll go and solve it will be solved for you and me right now but not for our
1:37:37
children if the black nations in Africa most of which have left a less number of
1:37:44
educated applicants then then exist among black people in this country yet they can establish their own independent
1:37:51
nation and try and do to create a future for their people then mr. Mohammed says here in America
1:37:57
there are enough black people who profess to be educated and when all of this would all his talk about equality
1:38:02
with the white man if we with the white man why can't we separate from him and set up our own government and go for
1:38:08
ourselves and solve our own problems if we can if we can stick for a moment to
1:38:13
this notion of compensatory action and it just seems to me and I don't want to pursue this further but it just does
1:38:19
seem to me that the president isn't denying the validity of the action in
1:38:25
the mass demonstration of what has taken place on the part of your movement mr. Walker your movement
1:38:32
to farmer but rather is saying this must now be institutionalized which is what I should imagine you gentlemen want well
1:38:38
as you Canton split compare the revolt of farmers with a with the revolt of
1:38:45
black people in this country because if the farmers are revolting over a more or less corn which in no way involves the
1:38:53
Constitution law or what this country is supposed to stand for but the black man
1:38:58
in this country is supposed to the getting freedom the country is supposed
1:39:04
to be based on that democracy freedom justice equality and all that separately teachers in school and now why should
1:39:12
the black man has to go to court to get freedom when a white man in this country is free when he's born why should the
1:39:18
black man needs some legislation to prove that he's a human being when you don't need any legislation to approve
1:39:24
the rights of human beings so I make this point because to come right back to my initial statement at the health start
1:39:30
of the program you will never get real freedom and recognition between black
1:39:37
and white people in this country without destroying the country without destroying the present political system
1:39:43
but without destroying the present economic system without rewriting the
1:39:48
entire Constitution it would be a complete destruction of everything that America supposedly stands for before a
1:39:55
white man in this country will recognize our black man as something on the same level with himself and this is why the
1:40:02
Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that the best way to solve the problem is complete separation that the black
1:40:10
man those are our people in this country who want to have our country of our own where we can go and spend on our own
1:40:15
feet and solve our own problems and not have to continue going to court or waiting for some politician to legislate
1:40:21
for another hundred 102 years to prove that we're human beings moderator I've discussed this with
1:40:26
Minister Malcolm before and after seeing Mississippi and Alabama close up I'd be glad to give him those states if it were
1:40:32
within my power to do so yet as I think I've said before why Minister Malcolm ever as I said before Minister Malcolm
1:40:40
the thing that bothers me about your idea of a black nation within a nation
1:40:45
if it can be affected there is that if the white man hates us as much as you say he does what a target neither his D
1:40:54
okay okay if he hates us that much then I would hate to be all gathered in one
1:40:59
place I'd rather be dispersed throughout this nation he could drop one controlled atom bomb and wipe us out he could
1:41:05
strangle us with a net for wiping you out may I finish he certainly did but he
1:41:12
could strangle us with an economic news strangled gentlemen I would rather be I
1:41:20
would rather be dispersed Minister Malcolm and I think then I would make a poor target you know um if you're all
1:41:26
together one gun can shoot you Harlem is order to get Harry Washington DC is all
1:41:32
right Canada that Washington DC has already become an all black this is why Harlem is being strangled economically I
1:41:38
think now and this is why this summer we plan to have Task Force people volunteers working in key sections like
1:41:45
Harlem the bedford-stuyvesant area and Newark New Jersey to tackle these slums and to organize the tenants for possible
1:41:52
rent strikes against the terrible conditions that existed I hope I haven't put anybody on the spot I'm not
1:41:59
intending to try and stir you up and make you do something that you wouldn't have done anyway
1:42:05
[Applause]
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I pray that God will bless you in everything that you do I pray that you
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will grow intellectually so that you can understand the problems of the world and
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where you fit into in that world picture and I pray that all the fear that has
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ever been in your heart will be taken out and when you look when you look at that man if you know he's nothing but a coward you won't fear him if he wasn't
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Authority wasn't gang up on he wouldn't need a leader
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this is how they function a function in math that's a color they put on a sheet so you won't know who they are at the
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cowl now the time will come on that sheet will be ripped off if the federal
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government doesn't take it off will take it off
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preferring the President Kennedy I believe you call him a trickster he has to be a trickster even if he's the
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president that doesn't stop him from being a trickster if he's making tricks anytime a president a man running
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running for president tells Negroes what he's going to do for them when he gets in office and after he gets in office he
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has time to do something for everybody else except the people that put him in office he tricked the people who put him in office he has the time to take a
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stand against us steal against Castro against Khrushchev against layoffs in South Vietnam and all these other places
1:43:39
all over the world but when it comes to time to correcting the injustice --is that are being inflicted up against Negroes in this country Kennedy sits up
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there like Nero he's fiddling while Birmingham is burning Malcolm X I I want
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to talk with you briefly about your affiliation with Cassius how long have you known him about three years and have
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you been advising him as far as his religious affiliations well no I don't
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give advice to anyone he's my brother and my friend I expressed what I know and understand around him and then but
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he has a mind of his own and understanding of his own did he feel that he tells me that he felt that is
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affiliation with the Muslim religion had a great deal to deal with his winning if I ever follower of the Honorable Elijah
1:44:19
Muhammad in the religion of Islam it definitely had had everything to do with his victory it gave him the confidence
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that was necessary to be the winner Malcolm X you were involved in a controversy some months ago were your
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leader for the past 90 days because of completeness by made concerning the
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President of the United States which were distorted they were to store him yes what did you say well well I said
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the same thing that everybody says that his assassination was the result of the climate of hate only only I said the
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chickens came home to roost and which means the same thing climate of hate means that this is the
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result of something and when I said chickens coming home to roost coming home the roof I said the same thing but
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did you dip you did not say that you were glad the president was killed no that's what the press fail what would i
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look like thing that i'm glad the president was killed Malcolm this was your first public statement in that 90 day period is the novice time I love my
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mouth in ninety day that's why I'm talking so fast and so haughty
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that we're making progress in this manner and well right no no I will never
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say that progress is being made if you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches there's no
1:45:30
progress you pull it all the way out that's not progress the progress is healing the wound that the below that
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the blow made and they haven't even begun to pull a knife out much less try and pull heal the wound you have you
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help they won't even admit the knife is there you have it tonight for one as a
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Muslim believe that the white man is intelligent enough if he will need to
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realize how black people really feel and how fed up we are without better
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compromising sweets all right you're the one that make it hard for yourself the
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right man believes you when you go to him with that old sweet talk because you've been sweet-talking him ever since he brought you here stop
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sweet-talking tell him how you see tell him how what kind of hell you've been
1:46:16
catching and let him know that if he's not ready the cleanest house up if he's
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not ready but clean his house up he shouldn't have a house should catch on
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fire and burn down
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Muslims we identify ourselves with the dock work so we're not any majority we
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are part of the majority and the white man is the menorah you have to know this
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understand us we don't think in the odds are against us we don't fight a battle at Yad Sarah team stuff why the whole
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dot well today is in unity it's run if you don't say think so look at the
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United Nations when the dot well don't they both as once they get in the
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colonial of colonial this out of Africa and out of each telling them to get out
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they don't have any nuclear weapons but they got a solid United voice and their
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unity alone is sufficient to drive the oppressor and expire of their people out
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of their own country you and I need to learn a lesson from that right there in
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the UN the dark world consists of Buddhists Hindus tintypes
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tourists Christians Muslims everything but they together they forget their
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religious and political differences they think as one they move as one against a
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common enemy and why Oliver Algeria he's going don't think he's not going he's
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going they're getting him out of Angola
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I don't and Anika out of angle out of our ganda out of Kia he's going from
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South Africa to you haven't got long to be there Oh over this that people who have been
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oppressed and exploited by those who are not their own kind strangers are coming
1:48:29
together to get the oppressor off their back you and I learn a lesson from them
1:48:34
we are oppressed we are exploited we are downtrodden we
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are denied not only civil rights but even human rights so the only way we're going to get some of this oppression and
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exploitation away from us or aside from us is come to
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against the common enemy [Applause]
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when they sat down at the bank don't country everyone there had this in
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common a son of the Rose who was sitting there were socialists some were
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communists some were capitalist some were Christians somewhere Buddhist they were
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everything for all of them and they
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looked at that dark skin and agreed that this is one thing they had income great
1:49:30
interest in the fact that you have joined the Muslim religion how long have you had this interest Cassius Oh for the
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past six years I would say after hearing all bottle teachers on Negro history and who we were before we got here and being
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a follower the Muslim religion to do with your winning the championship match
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and everybody could nobody believed it so my prayers to Allah and faith in my
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religion living a clean righteous life I have to say that's what fooled me - Malcolm X I I want to talk with you
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briefly about your affiliation with Cassius how long have you known him about three years and have you been
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advising him as far as his religious affiliations as well no I don't give advice to anyone he's my brother and my
1:50:34
friend I expressed what I know and understand around him and then but he has a mind of his own and understanding
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of his own Minister Malcolm you have suggested that there are all kinds of movements in Harlem growing that you and
1:50:48
I don't know about oh yes frustration itself has been has been
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sufficient all that was necessary to make Negroes realize the the importance
1:50:59
of banning together and Negroes are banding together banding together and what kind of
1:51:04
movements different kinds of movements all kinds of movements and they remain almost invisible they
1:51:11
remain almost unknown but yet they are there when I say invisible I mean invisible in the sense that their
1:51:16
existence is unknown and no matter how much you try and track them down you can't find them and never try and find
1:51:22
them through the Negro leaders the Negro leaders are famous as apologist if you recall one of the most famous Negro
1:51:29
leaders in 1959 was asked by you about the Black Muslim movement and he said he
1:51:34
knew nothing about it in the next moment you flashed a picture on the screen with him shaking hands with me so if you will
1:51:41
recall so this is what this is their policy this is their attitude or their reaction they never know what's going on in the
1:51:47
Negro community and what form will the activities of these various so-called
1:51:52
invisible movements taken home this summer an example Commissioner Murphy
1:51:58
almost every statement that Commissioner Murphy makes would give you the
1:52:03
impression that he's encouraging the police rank-and-file policemen that are to take whatever method or measures
1:52:10
necessary to hold Negroes in check he feeds the type of statistics to the
1:52:15
white public to make them think that Harlem is a complete criminal area that everyone is prone toward violence this
1:52:22
gives the police the impression that they can then go and brutalize the Negroes or suppress the Negroes or even
1:52:29
frighten the Negroes whenever something happens 20 police cars converge on one area this doesn't frighten Negroes so it
1:52:36
means that someone is either misinforming Commissioner Murphy and making him use tactics this year that he
1:52:43
would not use four years ago or that the former police Kennedy would not use and in this force that is so visible in the
1:52:51
Harlem community creates the spirit of resentment in every Negro they think they're living in a police
1:52:57
state and they become hostile toward the policeman they think that the policeman is there to be against them rather than
1:53:03
to protect them in these thoughts these frustrations these apprehensions
1:53:08
automatically are sufficient to make this make these Negroes begin to form
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means and ways to protect themselves in case the police themselves get too far
1:53:19
out of line Malcolm what is your purpose here well
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my face appears to remind the African heads of state that there are 22 million of us in America who are also of African
1:53:32
descent and remind them also that we are the victims of America's colonialism or
1:53:38
American imperialism and that our problem is not an American problem it's a human problem not a Negro problem it's
1:53:45
a problem of humanity it's not a problem of civil rights or the problem of human rights and what do you hope for from
1:53:52
this conference what we hope to bring pressure upon them well rather we hope to impress upon them the importance of
1:53:59
their bringing pressure and world opinion upon the United States take some meaningful effort to solve our problem
1:54:05
in America one of them to help us get our problem before the United Nations in charge America with violating our human
1:54:12
rights in the same way that South Africa is charged with violating the human rights of our people in that area and
1:54:19
what sort of reaction have you been getting from the African leaders well I've gotten a good reaction the very
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sympathetic reaction and an understanding reaction many of them have been misinformed by the American government into thinking that black
1:54:32
people in America don't identify with Africa and therefore they refrain themselves from voicing their interest
1:54:39
in our problem but I Drive impressed upon them that our problem is their problem that what are their problems are
1:54:45
our problems where in all the power used to be centered in Europe it's not
1:54:51
centered in Europe anymore it has divided itself up and is in centered in
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different parts of this earth today much of it is in Asia much of it is in Africa
1:55:03
it has shifted and as the people in Africa and Asia get some power of their
1:55:09
own they get a mind of their own they start seeing with their own eyes and listening with their own ears and
1:55:15
speaking with their own mouths and coming to definitions from their own brain the European definition now isn't
1:55:22
necessarily the definition the European yardstick now isn't necessarily the yardstick and what
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the European calls the racialism is necessarily racialism and what the
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european calls Brotherhood isn't necessarily Brotherhood killing of our beloved brother Ronald visto
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Ronald Stokes was not belief among the followers of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad he was one of the highest he
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was the secretary of our los angeles month and as we explained in that rally on me many of you thought we should go
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right on out then and make war on the white man you wanted to do it yourself
1:56:04
didn't you didn't you you wanted some action then didn't you
1:56:09
because you don't like the idea of white people shooting black people down do you ready to do something about it we know
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you are and the white man should be thankful that God has given the
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Honorable Elijah Muhammad the control over his followers setting head so that they can play it cool calm and collected
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and leave it in the hands of God
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the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has stopped us from stealing and we did feel
1:56:42
he stopped us from gambling he stopped us from cheating and he stopped us from
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lying stealing runs rampant in homes tymberlee runs rampant in Harlem well
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types of evils and faces that tariffs on our communities run rampant in home the
1:57:01
Honorable Elijah Muhammad doesn't condemn the victim he goes to work on the victim he doesn't say that all of
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you should go to jail because you have fallen victim to the evils that white man has brought into the community he
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teaches you and me the religion that God has given to him as the only cure for the evil habit the white man has brought
1:57:22
here among us profanity you don't find it among Muslims he stopped us from
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using profanity from being voiceless from being rude and loud and encourages
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us to be courteous manually and to exercise discipline and respect for
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authority at all times he teaches us all things alone to respect law enforcement
1:57:49
officers as long as these law enforcement officers respect themselves can respect the law that they represent
1:57:57
the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has eliminated laziness from among his
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followers he teaches us to be strictly gentle our money that we earn in an
1:58:09
intelligent direction he keeps here taking us out of the tavern we don't throw our money away
1:58:14
there he is taking us out of the bars in the nightclub we don't throw our money away there we don't stand on the corner
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now without a job when you become a Muslim he makes us get a job he makes us go to work he makes less
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exercise or exert energy in our own behalf and all of this type of teaching
1:58:33
that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is doing among the black people in this country has been instrumental in
1:58:40
producing a new type of people a new thinking people people with a new action
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a new attitude and a behavior and even the work critics
1:58:51
something on the roof will remain to Mohammed so it hurts their heart to do so have to admit that he has made better
1:58:58
people out of those of us who follow him better than when we better than we were before we became his phone
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just one step father to see am i justified in this stand and I say I'm
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not speaking I'm speaking as a black man from America which is a racist society no matter how much you hear it talk
1:59:26
about democracy it says racists in South Africa or as racist as Portugal or as racist as any
1:59:32
other race rules with racialist society on this on this earth the only difference between it and South Africa
1:59:38
South Africa preaches separation and practice of separation America preaches integration and practices segregation
1:59:44
this was the only difference they don't practice what they preach for a South Africa preaches and practices the same
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thing I have more respect for a man who let me know where he stands even if he's wrong then the one who
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comes up like an angel mean there's nothing by the devil
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people deity a system of government that America has consist of committees there
2:00:14
are sixteen senatorial committees that govern the country and twenty
2:00:19
congressional committees ten of the sixteen senatorial committees are in the
2:00:26
hands of Southern racialist senators who were racially 13 of the 20 abroad this
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was before the last election I think it's even more so now 10 of the 16 committees senatorial committees are in
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the hands of senators who are Southern racialist 13 of the 20 congressional
2:00:46
committees were in the hands of southern congressmen who are racialist which means out of the 36 committees that
2:00:52
govern the foreign and domestic direction of that government 23 are in the hands of southern racialist men who
2:00:59
in no way believe in the Equality of man and men who do anything within their
2:01:05
power to see that the black man never gets for the same seat or to the same level that they are on the reason that
2:01:11
these men from that area have that type of power is because America has a seniority system and in these who have
2:01:19
that seniority have been there longer than anyone else because the black people in the areas where they live
2:01:24
can't vote and it is only because the black man is the prize of his vote that
2:01:29
puts these men in positions of power that gives them such influence in the government beyond their actual
2:01:35
intellectual or political ability of even beyond the number of people from the areas that they represent so we have
2:01:42
we can see in that country that no matter what the federal government professes to be doing the power of the
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federal government lines in these committees and any time a black man or any kind of legislation is proposed to
2:01:55
benefit the black man or give the black man has just do we find that it's locked up in these committees right here and
2:02:01
when they let something through the committee usually they're full chopped up and fixed up that by the time it
2:02:07
becomes law as the law that can't be enforced well another example is the Supreme Court desegregation decision
2:02:13
that was handed down in 1954 this is the law and this law they have not been able to
2:02:19
implement this law in New York City or in Boston or in Cleveland or Chicago or
2:02:26
the northern cities and my contention is at anytime you have a country supposedly a democracy supposedly the land of the
2:02:33
free and the home of the brave and it can't enforce laws even in the northern
2:02:39
most cosmopolitan and progressive part of it that will benefit a black man if those laws can't be enforced or that
2:02:46
law can't be enforced how much harm do you think we will get when they pass some civil rights legislation which only
2:02:52
involves more law that they can't enforce this law they'll never enforce those laws so my contention is then we
2:02:58
are faced with a racial istic society a society in which they are deceitful
2:03:03
deceptive and the only way we can bring about a change is to talk the kind of language speak the language that they
2:03:10
understand the racialist never understands a peaceful language the racialist never
2:03:16
understands the nonviolent language the racialist we have his fault in his language to us for 400 years we have
2:03:23
been the victim of his brutality we are the ones who faces dogs that tear the flesh from our limbs only because we
2:03:29
want to enforce the Supreme Court decision we are the ones who have our skulls crushed not by the Ku Klux Klan
2:03:35
but by policemen only because we want to enforce what they call the Supreme Court decision we are the ones upon whom water
2:03:42
hoses are turned with pressure so hard that it rips the clothes from our bank not men but the clothes from the backs
2:03:49
of women in children you've seen it yourself only because we want to enforce what they call the law well anytime you
2:03:55
live in a society supposedly based upon law and it doesn't enforce its own law because the color of a man's skin
2:04:01
happens to be wrong then I say those people are justified to resort to any
2:04:07
means necessary to bring about justice where the government can't give them justice
2:04:36
I don't believe in any form of unjustified extremism but I believe that
2:04:43
when a man is exercising extremism a human being is exercising extremism in
2:04:52
defense of Liberty for human beings is no vice and when one is moderate in the
2:05:03
pursuit of justice for human beings I say he's a sinner
2:05:10
and I might add in my conclusion in fact America is one of the best examples when
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you read this history about extremism Oh Patrick Henry said Liberty or death that's extreme
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[Music]
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I read once passingly about a man named Shakespeare I only read about him
2:05:34
passing him passing me but I remember one thing he wrote but trying to move me he put it in the mouth of Hamlet I think
2:05:41
it was and said to be or not to be he was in doubt about something whether it
2:05:49
was nobler in the mind of man to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous
2:05:54
fortune moderation or to take up arms
2:06:00
against the sea of troubles and by opposing end them and I go for that if you take up arms
2:06:07
you'll end it but if you sit around and wait for the one who who's in power to make his mind that he should end it
2:06:12
you'll be waiting a long time and in my opinion the young generation of whites
2:06:17
blacks Brown whatever else there is you're living at a time of extremism a time of revolution a time when there's
2:06:24
got to be a change people in power have misused it and now there has to be a change and a better world has to be
2:06:30
built and the only way it's going to be built with it with it with is with extreme methods and I for one will join
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in with anyone don't care what color you are as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this
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earth thank you
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you
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you
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well that's what I mean in the last year like Roy Walker said he changed he wanted to get along with the white
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people but you people didn't want to get along with us what do you think
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you
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he was gonna be a whole thing is over
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[Music]
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[Music]
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you
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some people seem to feel that he meant the river inspire violence did you review of that no I disagree I think he
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met as the things he said if one wants to fight with Bullock then we tell you
2:10:04
it with the same if you don't know anything but a gun at that time I feel
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we should know the same but I don't hit everybody in fact I have no hit in my
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